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Lives Less Ordinary

The WW2 spy and the little leaf that saved her

Lives Less Ordinary

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.6814 Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In 1942, several years into the Second World War, the British government sent out a series of bulletins requesting any personal photos the public might have of the French coastline. Odette Hallowes, a French woman living in the UK with her three young children, answered the call and was invited to London where she was offered a role in the Special Operations Executive (SOE). The SOE, formed under the direct orders of British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, aimed to create a top-secret underground army to help local resistance movements and conduct espionage and sabotage in enemy-held territories. Odette eventually agreed and arrived in France in November 1942, where she worked undercover, under the code-name ‘Lise’.

The following year, Odette was captured, interrogated, and tortured by the Gestapo. She was sentenced to death and transported to Ravensbrück, a concentration camp for women in northern Germany. In the midst of her suffering and isolation, Odette found solace in the most unexpected form – a tiny, beautiful green leaf on the otherwise desolate camp grounds. This leaf became her lifeline, a symbol of freedom beyond the prison walls.

Shortly after her 33rd birthday and with the war coming to a close, Odette was handed over to the advancing American army and eventually reunited with her children. For her remarkable bravery and stark refusal to betray her fellow secret agents, she was awarded both the George Cross and France's Légion d'Honneur. She even had a major film made about her.

Almost 80 years later, Odette’s granddaughter, Sophie Parker was looking through some of Odette's possessions when she rediscovered that tiny leaf. As Sophie recounts, this leaf wasn’t just a piece of foliage; it symbolised hope and survival and became a tangible connection to her grandmother's incredible story.

Presenter: Asya Fouks Producer: Thomas Harding Assinder

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I want to tell you why I love podcasting. Hi, my name's Tommy Dixon,

0:06.3

and I make podcasts for the BBC. I'm a big fan of stories, always loved a good book. But when I started

0:12.0

commuting for my first job, I discovered podcasts. I was blown away by how a creative idea and the right

0:17.8

mixture of sounds could take you into a whole new world full of incredible stories. You know, the type that make you go, wow. And that kind of inspired me to

0:25.2

give it a go myself, which, to cut a long story short, led to a BBC training scheme and a whole

0:29.9

new career giving other people that exact same feeling. So if you want to hear amazing stories

0:34.1

that make you go wow, like I did, they're just a tap or click away on BBC

0:38.0

Sounds.

0:41.0

If you can imagine she's in the compound of this vast camp, there isn't a single tree as far as she

0:47.4

can see.

0:50.0

Something attracted her eyes to the ground and she saw at her feet the most beautiful little green leaf.

0:59.9

And I think it symbolised freedom.

1:01.9

You know, this leaf had come from outside those horribly high prison walls,

1:07.1

and it was almost giving her a message that she was going to be free.

1:22.9

Hi, I'm Masia Fuchs, and this is Lives Less Ordinary.

1:28.1

Today, the story of an extraordinary woman named Odette Hallows and the power of a single

1:34.2

unassuming object, a leaf, one that's very old, very small, and extremely delicate, but that

1:43.9

holds a larger-than-life story.

1:47.6

A story passed down the generations of war, espionage, and extreme courage in the face of almost certain death.

1:56.8

Did you never feel tempted to give in?

2:01.9

That is going to sound terribly lacking in humility.

2:08.4

But I have to say no.

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