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First Things Podcast

Theater of the Divine

First Things Podcast

First Things

Religion & Spirituality

4.6699 Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2025

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In the ​latest installment of the ongoing interview series with contributing editor Mark Bauerlein, Peter Kreeft joins in to discuss his recent book, “God on Stage: 15 Plays That Ask the Big Questions." Intro music by Jack Bauerlein.

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0:00.0

Reefed joins us again.

0:13.9

He is Professor of Philosophy at Boston College and author of many books, including

0:20.0

Making Sense of Suffering and Christianity for Modern Pagans.

0:25.6

He has a new book entitled God on Stage, 15 plays that ask the big questions.

0:31.9

That's our topic today.

0:34.3

Welcome, Professor Kreeft.

0:35.9

Well, thank you for having me.

0:37.7

First, let's do a metaphysical question.

0:40.1

How is one to put an infinite, omniscient, transcendent being, if we want to call being, God into a drama on a stage?

0:52.1

Isn't that impossible?

0:53.7

That's like saying, how in the world are you going to put Shakespeare into Hamlet? He's there already. He's omnipidate. I'm my present.

1:02.0

Very good. Very good. We have 15 plays here, mostly stage plays. Anything you want to say about your principle of selection?

1:12.6

No, I don't have a principle of selection. I do it inductively and intuitively.

1:16.6

Here are 15 of my favorite plays that say something important about God and the difference God makes,

1:24.6

whether overtly or covertly. And then I organized them into an outline.

1:31.1

Anyone who has written a long paper or essay knows that the outline usually comes at the end

1:38.0

rather than the beginning. Here are things worth saying, and now you organize them.

1:42.4

Very good. Very good. Your first play is actually a radio play under Milkwood by the poet

1:49.2

Dylan Thomas. You say that the real protagonist in that play is the setting of the action.

1:56.9

Where does this take place? It takes place in a little Welsh countryside town inhabited by eccentric people.

2:07.6

And it's not so much the place itself, but Thomas' poetic way of describing both the place and the characters.

2:18.3

So this is showcasing words.

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