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DarkHorse Podcast

There’s a New Tariff In Town: The 271st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.65.3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2025

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

Tariffs, Trump, AI, nature, and science. Are the tariffs insane, or brilliant? Will Trump actually bring manufacturing back to the U.S.? How are the “reciprocal tariffs” calculated, what game is everyone playing, and how long will it take to know who wins? Then: AI marches us further into the Cartesian Crisis; can we restore our humanity? Scientific American claims that too much nature is bad for you (it’s not), and finally, some words from County Highway, and why we should consider being qui...

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0:00.0

Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast live stream. It's the 200.

0:10.5

Let's try that again. The 271st.

0:14.4

Indeed. I'm Dr. Brett Weinstein. You are Dr. Heather Heying. Spring is humming along.

0:18.8

Feels pretty good to be out in the sun and be soaking it all up, though may not be as safe as we

0:25.4

once thought.

0:27.9

Yeah, so I'm going to, I'm going to just start right off by saying, I object to the framing that

0:32.5

you put out into the world just before the live stream started.

0:35.6

You said, don't go outside until you watch this.

0:39.2

And I want to never be on record advising people not to go outside, honestly.

0:42.8

I mean, there are times, you know, high, you know, we lived through some fires in Portland

0:48.1

where you actually, there was no desire to go outside.

0:52.1

It was the air quality was that bad.

0:53.7

But no, do go outside. It was that the air quality was that bad. But no, do go outside.

0:56.7

Yes, this was, of course, dripping with irony and sarcasm.

1:01.8

And I now realize I forgot to include the emoji that is supposed to let people know,

1:07.4

what I'm saying should not be taken at face value.

1:10.0

Yeah.

1:10.6

Yeah. Yeah.

1:11.1

Anyway, apologies, I will find some way to get you all an extra emoji and you can go back

1:16.8

and paste it in yourself.

1:18.4

Okay, so this is number 271.

1:21.5

We're going to take a couple weeks off after this in order to go to Savannah, Georgia,

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