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Deadline: White House

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News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2025

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on U.S. intelligence contradicting Trump’s justification for mass deportations, Sen. Chris Van Hollen’s press conference upon his return from El Salvador, and an influx of donations to Harvard University in the face of its stand against Trump. Joined by: John Brennan, John Hudson, Amanda Carpenter, Rep. Seth Moulton, Harry Litman, James Pindell, George Conway, and Teddy Schleifer.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. Happy Friday. It's 4 o'clock in New York. Donald Trump this afternoon,

0:12.1

suffering legal and political blows to his efforts to deport individuals without providing them due process.

0:19.8

Brand new reporting from the Washington Post today undercuts one of the central

0:23.8

rationales for withholding due process.

0:26.9

It has to do with a comprehensive assessment made by the National Intelligence Council

0:31.9

in conjunction with 18 intelligence agencies.

0:35.5

It's an assessment first reported on by the New York Times.

0:38.6

The Washington Post today cites people familiar with the matter in reporting that the

0:43.6

NIC earlier this month determined that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion

0:49.9

of the United States by the Trent de Aragua gang. It is a judgment

0:54.2

that contradicts not just what

0:55.9

Donald Trump has said repeatedly in public,

0:58.2

but what the Trump administration

1:00.0

has used as reasoning

1:01.9

for deporting suspected gang members

1:04.4

without due process

1:06.0

under the Alien Enemies Act.

1:08.0

From that new post reporting, quote,

1:10.0

the intelligence product found that although

1:12.5

there are some low-level contacts between the Maduro government and Trend de Aragua or TDA,

1:19.7

the gang does not operate at the direction of Venezuela's leader. The product builds on U.S.

1:25.6

intelligence findings in February, first reported by the New York Times, that the gang is not controlled by Venezuela.

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