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🗓️ 22 November 2022
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0:00.0 | I'm Ezra Klein. This is the Ezra Conchell. |
0:24.1 | Here is the thesis of this conversation put simply. How we read is as deserving of attention |
0:31.9 | as what we read. Maybe for more so. And how we read it is changed dramatically in just |
0:39.4 | a few short years. And that means our minds, the way we think and interpret and reflect |
0:44.8 | on the world, they've changed too. And at stunning speed, literacy is an experiment humankind |
0:50.5 | to ran on itself. That we ran on ourselves pretty recently actually. And it has had remarkable |
0:56.1 | wondrous results. It has changed us and it has changed our societies. In recent decades, |
1:02.2 | the shift to thinking and reading amidst a cacophony of digital information and dialogue and |
1:08.8 | text, that is another experiment we're running on ourselves. And it is also a seismic |
1:13.6 | one and it is ongoing and it is early. And we don't know how it will turn out. We don't. |
1:21.6 | But people are trying to figure that out. Mary and Wolf is a professor at UCLA School |
1:25.4 | of Education and Information Studies. And she's one of the world's leading experts on how |
1:29.9 | reading works in and even more importantly, how it works on the brain, how it changes |
1:35.1 | the brain. She's the author of Proust and the Squid, the story and science of a reading |
1:39.4 | brain. And if reader come home, the reading brain in a digital world, among other books. |
1:46.0 | And don't worry, she's not someone who thinks we can or should turn back the clock to try |
1:51.3 | to return to some kind of pre-digital reading utopia. That's not possible. Nor was it a utopia. |
1:57.9 | And I'm not that person either. My whole career, my whole life is built on digital text. Her |
2:03.4 | idea is something different. That we need to understand what different kinds of reading |
2:09.6 | do to our minds. And then we need to develop in ourselves and our children what she calls |
2:14.8 | a bilateral brain. And as you'll hear here, she's just a lovely person to listen to and |
2:21.8 | to think alongside. As always, if you have guest suggestions, feedback, things you think |
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