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Old Testament. It really is, in many ways, the salvation story of the Old Testament. It is the

mighty deeds of God that is recounted all through the rest of Scripture. So what happens when

a preacher takes that profound account of the Passover and the Exodus and says,

it's really about you being ready for the next move of God in your life, but won't tell you

what that move is going to be. Welcome back to Issues, Etc. I'm Todd Wilkin. It's this week in

Pop Christianity. Today we're going to talk about Jensen Franklin's latest sermon.

It's time to move. Pastor Chris Rosebro joins us. He's pastor of Kansfinger Lutheran Church

in Oslo, Minnesota, and he's creator and host of the YouTube channel, Fighting for the Faith.

Chris, welcome back. Thanks for having me back, Todd.

I've noticed that often in evangelical preaching, the pastor will begin. He's got a Bible

in his hand. He's got to open to a certain chapter and verse. And he'll start with the Bible

passage, and then within seconds, that Bible passage is in the tail lights. And he's either twisted

it to something that it doesn't say, or he just more or less disregards it.

Is this going to be an example of one of those?

Yeah, it is.

It's not just one.

There's going to be two texts that he's going to do this with.

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