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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Thomas Frank on Fake Populism & Silicon Valley Fantasies

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2020

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Thomas Frank rejoins the show to talk about the past, present, and future of the Democratic party. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to you, sweetie. It's I'm Matt Taiyabi. I'm Katie helper. A lot of stuff went on this week. I guess we changed president sort of right?

0:15.1

Yeah, I'm just a little bit. Kind of. Yeah. Did you watch this speech? His and Kamala speech. It was so pletitude free. I mean, sorry. It was so I wish with pletitude. Yes, laden. It was chock full of pletitudes. I guess it's a normal to end with like God bless America and God bless the troops. It seems like a weird thing to end on the troops. Yeah, I need a minute. It's not like I'm missing Trump. I'm definitely not and we're it's also not over from. Right.

0:45.1

Phenomenon is not past yet, but I'm not terribly looking forward to the to the Biden Harris era in terms of like watching it. You know what I mean? I'm looking I'm looking forward to it in terms of not having to think about politics as much. Yeah, but like you can't fall into that now we brunch thing.

1:06.1

Well, I can. I guess you can, but the danger of course with with with them is that a lot of people I think on the left are fearing this even though most people on the left for glad Trump is gone, but I think there's a fear that now that he's gone. We're not going to pay attention. And of course that happened a lot with Obama. He did some really crappy things. I don't know. You probably didn't you probably paid attention to his running and all and all his finance. I actually wasn't I was on the dream. I was on the finance stuff. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I got I got trouble early for doing a whole thing of it.

1:36.1

But about his inaction on Wall Street and you know, they're all the same. They're all the same for me. So I don't really care. Right. You know, I mean what what do you think we could like he won't do the upward. He probably won't do those tax cuts. Right. That Trump did. No super.

1:53.1

Well transferring upwards transfer of wealth. I'd be shocked if a lot of political capital was expended on reversing things like that quickly, but we can get to all of that.

2:02.1

I look at all that. I guess so. All right. So let's let's do what we always do and start with the four food groups.

2:09.1

So the Democrats suck Republican suck isn't that terrible. Isn't that weird. What do we get for a Democrat suck this week?

2:16.1

So Democrat suck no surprise. Dan, if we could call up that article and comment dreams, please. But we have the Democrats punching left left punching.

2:27.1

I just want to point out that a vast majority was 20 plus something out of 30 of the races where candidates ran on Medicare for all they won. Okay. They won. Then we have people like Donna Shalella who lost.

2:43.1

And she's trying to I mean what's incredible is like I almost admire the goal of the centrist in after losing like after losing Donna Shalella actually said that moderate's one.

2:56.1

Mm hmm. I don't know why she didn't win then. She pulled the McCaskill.

3:01.1

Yes, McCaskill also great authority as a loser on how to win elections and also John Kasich. Kasich. He really needs to shut up. He's he's done. Move out of the way the dams already gave you a speaking part at the DMC versus like AOC got two minutes or something.

3:23.1

He stood at that crossroads. He should have been omitted at that point because I was such a bad ad. Do you remember when he's standing at the literal crossroads. It was a little on the nose.

3:33.1

And now he had.

3:35.1

I can't admire that actually, but anyway, go ahead.

3:38.1

Same way I kind of admire the Donna Shalella thing.

3:41.1

I mean, different. I guess this was. It was so stupid. Like in general, you don't want to show the exact thing you're mentioning.

3:48.1

It's a bit much. He could have said we're standing at a crossroads without literally being at a crossroads. Right. Right.

3:57.1

It's too much. It's too long a nose. It's too over. You're hitting people over the head.

4:01.1

But this guy is going on the news. Now he had one job to do.

4:06.1

He had to deliver his home state of Ohio to Biden and he failed. So it's not just to be fair. I would of course I don't like him politically.

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