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It's throwback Thursday.

Hey everybody, Krista Makes a podcast producer Chris Fafalius here.

It's February now, and I know we can all tend to get a little down this time of year.

So I thought we'd throw it back to an uplifting episode with a cool guy, John Foreman of Switchfoot.

John came on the pod back in March of 2022 to discuss the writing and recording

of Switchfoot's 2003 smash hit meant to live. This song is packed with themes of existentialism

and the longing for something greater. This song struck a chord with audiences worldwide,

becoming a defining rock song of its time.

John is as thoughtful and interesting as they come, and he shares stories about the creative

process behind the track, as well as the philosophical ideas that inspired it.

And that riff, man, that riff is huge.

They get into that too.

This is a good one, but before we dive into it,

let me remind you to check out our Patreon at christa makes.com. Subscribing gives you instant

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