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It's the Brian Laird Show on WNYC. I'm Bridget Bergen, senior reporter in the WNYC and Gothamist Newsroom.

Coming up on today's show, we'll continue our series of interviews with New York City mayoral candidates.

Up today is City Council Speaker Adrian Adams. She entered the race relatively late, but has picked up a few key endorsements.

We'll hear what she's pitching for her campaign and talk through some big news related to her day job.

The city council has sued Mayor Adams over ICE reopening on Breaker's Island. Plus, later in the show,

we'll talk to the person who runs the internet's wayback machine,

which preserves web history. We'll talk about its importance, especially in this moment,

when the Trump administration is directing some government webpages to be taken down.

And we'll wrap today's show with a call-in for grandparents on the role you play in your kids and grandkids' lives

and whether it's different from the role grandparents played in your life. But first,

the growing conflict between attorneys for the Trump administration and the courts. Yesterday,

Chief U.S. District Judge James Bosberg of Washington, D.C., announced plans to launch proceedings to determine if any Trump administration officials defied his court order not to remove any Venezuelan migrants from the country.

Bozberg has said that the decision to remove people on those flights back in mid-March, in defiance of his

earlier order, amounted to, quote, a willful disregard sufficient for the court to conclude

that probable cause exists to find a government in criminal contempt. This also marks yet

another escalation in the fight between the Trump administration and the nation's judiciary, a conflict of constitutional proportions.

Joining me now to help unpack how we arrived at this point, what it means going forward, and to answer your questions about the role of the courts, the rule of law, is this is legal scholar,

author, and journalist Emily Bazelon. She is a staff writer for the New York Times Magazine

and the Truman Capote Fellow for Creative Writing in Law at Yale Law School. She's also the

best-selling author of Charged, the new movement to transform American prosecution and end mass incarceration, and is a co-host of the Slate Political Gab Fest.

Emily, thank you so much for joining us. I'm always so grateful to talk to you.

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