Til Trump Do Us Part

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🗓️ 10 March 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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They were three Harris-supporting women, from across the country, all married to Trump-supporting men—and they were all contemplating divorce. Guest: Scaachi Koul, Slate senior writer who wrote about women considering leaving their husbands over their support for Donald Trump and the author of Sucker Punch. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:14.5	Sanchi Cole calls herself a divorce doula, which is kind of a joke, but also kind of not.
1:20.9	I'm like, what's that like fable about that guy who plays a flute and all the kids follow him?
1:23.1	Because nobody will pay him for getting rid of the rats.
1:24.4	The pied piper.
1:25.3	The pied piper.
1:29.5	I'm like that, but I'm just like getting divorced women to follow my piping.
1:37.9	Sachi writes an advice column about divorce, Perslate.
1:41.9	She just published a book about divorce. It's called Sucker Punch.
1:46.0	She's also interested in divorce as a political act. I think the election was like an interesting flashpoint.
1:49.0	There were so many women who were kind of talking very quietly online,
1:53.0	usually anonymously, about should I leave him if Trump wins?
1:57.0	So if you're following you on my page, you know that I have been actively talking to my husband about ending our 17-year marriage.
2:05.3	Sachi started seeing these posts on Reddit, on TikTok.
2:10.3	And everybody's like, oh, well, it's just politics.
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