Hi everybody welcome back to the Be Therein Five Podcast. I'm Kate Kennedy, your host.

Last year one of my favorite crowdsourced episodes was called Tis the Dam seasoning and

there was a part one on the main feed, because I was like on deadline for my book.

I just hosted Thanksgiving for the first time,

which I've never done before.

And that Sunday night I was supposed to have an episode come out

and it was about chival slash Haley Page and I don't know if you guys remember that whole

Saga the Haley Page wedding dress brand that is her like

given name was under this like parent company and then when she left and tried to go

off on her own they tried to like siege all of our social

media accounts anything with the name Haley Page and forbid her for using in a

professional capacity her name like her birth certificate, or a family page.

So it's like this crazy litigious parent company

and she hadn't done a lot of press, and I sent it to her,

and then she's like, great, I'm having my lawyer look it over,

and I was like, oh. So then I freaked out and I was like, I'm having my lawyer look it over, and I was like, oh.

So then I freaked out, and I was like,

well, I'm going to send it to my lawyer too.

Like, you know, I want to share interesting stories,

but I can't afford to be taken down by a company with a lot of money

if like she's you know something

set on here I still know how it works so I freaked out and I think I had like 90 minutes

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