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The Bulwark Podcast

Tom Nichols: Covid Trump 2.0

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

They end up sounding ridiculous whenever they try—like the treasury secretary saying that access to cheap goods is not part of the American dream. At the same time, Trump’s circle of plutocrats don't seem to mind that the stock market is tanking. And while the administration is cutting Ukraine off from US intelligence to serve up an unjust peace, the Pentagon is on a CTRL-F "gay" delete rampage. Plus, Dems need to skip the kooky TikToks, and the SpaceX rocket explosion was only one part of Elon's very bad day. 

Tom Nichols joins Tim Miller for the weekend pod.
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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullard podcast.

0:09.9

I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:11.2

It is Friday.

0:12.1

We've survived another week, barely.

0:14.4

And I am here with one of your faves, Professor Emeritus at the Naval War College.

0:18.1

He's a staff writer at the Atlantic.

0:19.7

His books include The Death of

0:21.1

Expertise, which has an updated and expanded edition. Go get it. It's Tom Nichols and maybe Cat

0:27.2

Lily. We'll see. How's it going, Tom? Good, Tim. Lily's sitting right here. She's waiting for her

0:32.3

close-up. So we may have a Lilly sighting. All right. So somehow, I went back and looked at the archives.

0:40.7

Time is a flat circle.

0:42.2

I feel like I'm living a lifetime every day.

0:44.6

I also feel like I'm hearing from you constantly in all your various platforms.

0:47.9

And so I was like, when was Nichols last on the pod?

0:50.7

And it was the day after inauguration.

0:53.6

Oh, yeah.

0:54.0

That was a real upper for people.

0:56.9

So it's been six weeks since then.

0:59.2

And I wanted to start by just kind of asking you your biggest takeaways from this

1:03.5

in terminal six weeks.

1:04.7

What has surprised you?

1:05.9

What has outraged you most?

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