Senior Trump administration officials, including the Vice President and Secretary of Defense,

used the encrypted commercial messaging app signal to debate the pros and cons of launching military strikes against the Houthis in Yemen.

And they accidentally invited the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic and Washington Week moderator Jeffrey Goldberg to be part of that chat group.

Goldberg revealed the details today in a report published for the Atlantic, and he joins me now.

Jeff, welcome to the News Hour. Thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having me.

So you're added to this group chat. You see some 18 or so other people on it.

Among them appear to be senior national security

and cabinet officials like Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance, Pete Hegeseth, John Ratcliffe, Tulsi Gabbard,

Stephen Miller, Steve Wickoff, Michael Waltz. How did you end up on this chat? And when do you

realize it looks like you were added by mistake? I was invited a couple of weeks ago to connect with Michael Waltz, the National Security Advisor.

That didn't strike me as particularly strange, given my job and his job.

A little while later, I'm added to a group chat with the people you just named.

That seemed strange.

But I kind of just ignored it a little bit. And then, you know, it really became a very bizarre situation

on Saturday the 15th of March when I was shared on a text in this group from somebody purporting to be Pete Hegesith, the Secretary of Defense.

And this text contained operational military information, including the time that bombs were supposed to start dropping on Yemen.

And this was two hours before that time. So I simply waited and stared at my phone.

And sure enough, the attack, the American attack on Yemen began to be felt at about 130 Eastern or so, 150 Eastern.

And that's when I realized that the chain was real.

Until that point, I really had a deep suspicion that I was being spoofed or hoaxed or being led astray on a disinformation campaign, the rationale for which I can't figure out.

But this all seems so improbable

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