Hello, everyone, and welcome to talk nerdy.

Today is Monday, January 6th, 2025.

And I'm the host of the show, Dr. Kara Santa Maria. It's a new year, and we've got a new season for you starting out strong with an incredible individual that we're really, really honored to have, had the opportunity to chat with. But before we dive into this week's episode, I want to thank those of you who make Talk Nerdy possible as we enter into our 11th year.

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Yeah, we started this show in 2014.

Today, this is episode 533.

And the patrons, I just can't thank you enough. Obviously, this show is free. Nobody

pays for it. Nobody has to pay for it. You can just download it through any app that you want to listen

to. So those of you who take the time and have the financial capability to support the show the way that you do. I'm just

like so incredibly grateful. You don't have to do it. You do it out of the goodness of your heart

and you make it so that we can keep this thing going. You help me by paying both my incredible

producer and assistant, Noel Dilworth, and also the editing company that I work

with, and also help me, you know, carve out the time in my really busy schedule because I am now

working as a psychology fellow, soon to be, hopefully, fingers crossed, fully licensed psychologist.

And so, yeah, I'd like to be able to keep doing this and you make it possible.

So thank you for that.

If you'd like to pledge your support on an episodic basis, all you've got to do is visit

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This week's top patrons include Anu Bhattavaj, Daniel Lang, David J.E. Smith, Mary Neva, Brian Holden, David Compton,

Gabrielle F. Haramio, Joe Wilkinson, Joseph Lamore, Pascuali Jalati, Rika Maharaj, and Ulrika

Hagman. All right, so let's get into it. I had the opportunity to speak with a giant in her field.

Dr. Judith L. Herman is a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School.

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