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Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

TRIAL DAY 5 | Graphic Autopsy Pics, Life Insurance Calls, & Objections Galore | Lori Vallow Daybell

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast

Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Documentary, News

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

What a bust day in court... From the medical examiner, to the life insurance, and even ending with a fiery cross exam with Lori...Lauren is here to break it all down for you. About Hidden True Crime: What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello, Hidden Jems. It was a big day in court today and we are going to go through everything

0:36.1

right now. I want to begin. The line was very long

0:42.7

to get into court this morning. Not all of the public who arrived to watch day five of the

0:48.2

Lori Day Bell trial were able to get a seat in the courtroom. But when it came to the surviving victims, the victims who

0:55.9

sit in the front row, fewer were actually there this morning. While Colby Ryan, he attended his

1:02.8

second day in court today, Kay Woodcock and her siblings, Charles Vallow's siblings, Susan and Jerry,

1:10.6

they were notably missing from court today.

1:13.8

And it's always an ominous clue in criminal trials when multiple victims affected by the crime are

1:20.3

absent. It always usually means it's going to be a difficult day inside the courtroom.

1:26.2

And that ominous clue proved to be true when the

1:29.5

first witness appeared on the stand he was dr derrick bomb gardener he works for the maricopa

1:37.3

county medical examiner's a medical examiner a board certified in anatomic pathology

1:43.9

clinical pathology and forensic pathology, and forensic pathology.

1:46.3

His job includes performing autopsies, running toxicology reports, and determining cause and

1:53.7

manner of death for people who pass away in the Maricopa jurisdiction. Well, Dr. Baumgartner

2:00.0

began by explaining that an autopsy is an examination of the

2:05.1

external and internal aspects of the body to determine how a person died. On July 13, 2019, two days

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