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Worldly

Trouble in Tunisia

Worldly

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.4 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 July 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Zack, Jenn, and Jen Kirby discuss the political crisis gripping Tunisia following the president’s decision to fire the prime minister and suspend parliament. Tunisia was the big “success story” of the Arab Spring: the one country whose revolution produced a real, albeit rocky, transition to democracy — a democracy that is now in crisis. The gang explains what’s going on, what it all means for Tunisia’s future, and how — or whether — the international community should respond. References: Tunisia’s president fired its prime minister and suspended parliament Is what happened in Tunisia a coup? A helpful timeline outlining Tunisia’s democratic transition Tunisia’s imperfect democracy was still a model, wrote Sarah E. Yerkes in 2019 Foreign Policy on the problem with calling Tunisia the Arab Spring’s “lone success story” Bloomberg’s Hussein Ibish on why this crisis is testing Tunisia’s political divisions The US secretary of state’s Tunisia tweets Hosts: Zack Beauchamp (@zackbeauchamp), senior correspondent, Vox Jennifer Williams (@jenn_ruth), senior foreign editor, Vox Jen Kirby (@j_kirby1), foreign and national security reporter, Vox Consider contributing to Vox: If you value Worldly’s work, please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts More to explore: Subscribe for free to Today, Explained, Vox’s daily podcast to help you understand the news, hosted by Sean Rameswaram. About Vox: Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow us: Vox.com Newsletter: Vox Sentences Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So, if you've heard one thing about the legacy of the 2011 Arab Spring, it's probably that Tunisia

0:48.3

is the only success story. The only country that had a revolution then that managed to sustain

0:54.0

a transition to democracy over the course of the past 10 years. But now, in the past week,

0:59.9

moved by the president to consolidate power on his own hands to fire the Prime Minister and

1:04.1

dismiss parliament, has raised questions about, you know, just how successful this transition

1:09.2

actually was, is Tunisia about to fall back into some kind of autocracy? Or is it going to make

1:14.9

it through what seems like a real crisis for this relatively young democracy? That's what we're

1:19.3

going to talk about today and worldly, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Zach

1:22.6

Beach. I'm here with the two Gens, Williams and Kirby. I almost said Williams and Ward.

1:30.2

So, Gens, how are you doing this fine, Warding? Hello, hi. I'm good. How are you?

1:35.0

I like to you both initially. I don't know if this is going to make it out of the final record,

1:38.3

but I like to you both initially said something at the same time. Like the Gens, the Gens, as you

1:43.4

co-exist on worldly, are slowly merging. Into what? Yeah, to be one master, Gens.

1:48.7

Yes, yes. The one gen to rule them all is going to be here on the podcast.

1:56.2

So, Kirby, why don't you start talking to us a little bit about like literally what happened

2:02.3

in the past week or so in Tunisia? Because it's, the details are actually pretty important

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