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True Crime Bullsh**

True Crime Bullsh** Live: Stories from the Road, Stories from the Trenches

True Crime Bullsh**

Studio BOTH/AND

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.65K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

At the Studio BOTH/AND Launch Party, Josh and several members of the research team took to the stage to discuss research trips, highs and lows of researching Keyes, heartbreaks, goals, and the funnier stories people don't often hear. Plus, some in-depth conversations on the Christopher Roof and James Lamar Tidwell cases. And a few small spoilers for next season.

Recorded at the Historic Beaver Mill in North Adams, MA.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Book your ticket to happiness with Sun Express Airlines. All right, so in our final segment of the night, we're gonna talk about Israel Keys.

0:30.0

So we, it's so weird, I always thought I was going to do this alone.

0:34.8

I didn't trust people.

0:36.7

And then some folks weezled their way in to part of the team, and now we have a team of six which is wild to me. But I want to invite

0:45.9

the first three researchers who join the team in KAS, I don't know if we're using your government name or not,

0:53.6

so Kaz, Michelle Tooker, and Shano Wilensky. So if you've listened to the podcast, which I'm sure you all have, I've been

1:18.1

investigating serial killer Israel Keys for 10 years now.

1:23.3

It started off as just a weird fascination

1:26.2

and then there were Excel spreadsheets and then FOIA's

1:29.3

and then I was like doing dive searches in the woods.

1:33.1

It's been a strange journey.

1:35.7

And the thing about the Keys case

1:39.4

is if you are even a little bit obsessive,

1:41.8

it will take over your life as it has mine.

1:44.8

People ask when it's going to end and I say it probably won't end.

1:48.6

That has been the case with these three.

1:53.4

So I actually want to start with,

1:56.7

I didn't trust anyone to do this with me.

2:00.0

I didn't trust that they could ethically do it

2:01.9

or do it correctly.

2:04.2

And yet you three somehow managed to EQ ways in.

2:09.4

Kazi, you were the first member of the team.

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