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Trump Prompts Rethink of Nuclear-Weapons Deals

WSJ What’s News

The Wall Street Journal

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44K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Amid doubts about Washington’s commitment to defending its allies, countries in Europe and elsewhere are asking whether America’s nuclear umbrella offers enough protection from Russia and countries looking to build their arsenals, such as North Korea and Iran. WSJ reporter Laurence Norman and Marion Messmer, senior research fellow at Chatham House, discuss what might drive some countries to seek the protection of others or consider building their own nukes. Then, Debak Das, assistant professor at the University of Denver, shares the proliferation risks of a renewed arms race, and what the process of actually building a nuclear program could look like. Luke Vargas hosts. Further Reading  Trump Prompts European Calls for a Homegrown Nuclear Umbrella The Bomb Is Back as the Risk of Nuclear War Enters a New Age  Trump’s Embrace of Putin Has Germany Thinking of Nuclear Weapons  Iran Has Enough Highly Enriched Uranium for Six Nuclear Weapons  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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guard your card.com. Hey, what's news listeners. It's Sunday, April 13th. I'm Luke Vargas for the

0:35.4

Wall Street Journal and this is What's News Sunday,

0:38.2

the show where we tackle the big questions about the biggest stories in the news by reaching

0:42.4

out to our colleagues across the newsroom to help explain what's happening in our world.

0:46.9

And this week, as the U.S. and Iran renew talks over Tehran's nuclear program, could we be

0:52.7

at the dawn of a new nuclear arms race?

0:56.0

It's a question surfacing the world over, as countries in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East,

1:01.0

question whether America's nuclear umbrella offers enough protection,

1:05.0

and which is driving some to seek out the protection of others

1:09.0

or consider building their own nukes.

1:11.6

We'll look at who's scoping out new nuclear deterrence, the proliferation risks of a renewed arms race,

1:17.6

and what the process of actually building a nuclear program would look like in 2025.

1:22.6

A little later on, we will be joined by nuclear weapons expert De Debach Doss, to discuss the practical details of going nuclear.

1:30.2

But first, let me introduce journal reporter Lawrence Norman and from the London think tank Chatham House,

1:35.7

senior research fellowed Marian Messmer, an expert in arms control and nuclear weapons policy.

1:41.8

Lawrence, let me start with you, just to set the stage here. Walk us through

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