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Pod Save the World

Trump’s National Security Team Takes Shape

Pod Save the World

Crooked Media

Politics, News

4.824.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2024

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Tommy and Ben process Trump’s reelection and the role foreign policy played in the outcome, highlight some awkward reactions from global leaders, and walk through what we know about Trump’s choices for top positions like Secretary of State, National Security Advisor and CIA director. They also dig into what a second Trump term will mean for Russia and Ukraine, Trump’s alleged calls with Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky, Elon Musk’s new role as an American oligarch, and the latest developments out of Israel and Gaza, including the expiration of a 30 day ultimatum the Biden administration gave to Netanyahu’s government about increasing aid access. Then Ben speaks with Senator Chris Murphy about where Democrats went wrong and how they can adjust their foreign policy moving forward.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Pots Save the World. I'm Tommy Vitor.

0:12.9

I'm Ben Rhodes.

0:14.3

So that sucked, huh?

0:17.1

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sorry I'm not there to mourn with you. I'm here in Washington, D.C. with a lot of sad

0:24.6

Democrats. Dude, I don't know. How are, like, that must be a grim scene right now. It's a grim scene. It's 2004 vibes, but worse, is how I'd frame it. But yeah, it was rough, man. It was a rough election night.

0:40.1

I mean, I remember I was at the office with you guys. And on the drive home, by the time I got home,

0:47.3

the vibes had shifted 180 degrees in a bad direction. You know? Yeah. And it was tough watching with my kids, you know,

0:55.8

especially the two daughters who were all excited about a woman president, you know. That was not

1:02.7

a pleasant experience to explain to them why this was happening. Yeah, I went into the sort of sadness

1:10.2

place, but I quickly left and have arrived at anger. And I'm

1:13.9

just kind of hanging out here for a while. I'm excited to be angry for a while. I'm picking

1:17.5

fights on Twitter, shouting at people, telling random, you know, assholes to fuck off that I've

1:23.9

disliked for a long time. So that part's fun. Anger is good. My first cycle was

1:28.7

to understand it. You know, I wrote this piece for The New York Times. Great piece. So I kind

1:34.7

channeled my feelings into that for a couple days. But then when that was done, I just felt the anger.

1:42.1

So I think I'm where you are now. Yeah. It's probably a good frame of mind for podcasts. I actually think it's a great frame of mind of a anger. So I think I'm where you are now, which is probably a good frame of mind for podcasts.

1:45.7

I actually think it's a great frame of mind of a podcast.

1:48.3

So we're going to cover the results of the election

1:49.9

from a foreign policy perspective,

1:51.4

both how the issues that we cover on this show impacted what happened on Tuesday,

1:57.0

how the results will impact Trump's policy generally

1:59.9

and how they're being received around the world.

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