I'm Ed Vasey. We're going to be unpacking the politics today, and some big foreign

stories are making the news today. Joining me now are the leader-writer and former correspondent

for the Times Michael Binion. Welcome to the show, Michael. Thank you, Ed. We'll see whether you can put

forward. It's unfair.

A rational policy.

A rational policy for Donald Trump.

And the opinion and features editor at CDM, Alice Demby.

Welcome to the show.

Hello.

Great to have you back.

Such a great pairing that they are back for a second time.

All we really want to talk about is tariffs

because the policy is completely insane and round the bend.

Anyway, overnight Donald Trump claimed that Starwell was very happy

about Britain's tariff treatment.

He spoke to reporters as he arrived in Miami on Air Force One.

I think it's going very well.

It was an operation.

I like when a patient gets operated on and it's going very well. It was an operation, like when a patient gets operated on,

and it's a big thing. I said this would exactly be the way it is. We have six or seven trillion

dollars coming into our country, and we've never seen anything like it. We've never seen anything like it.

That is certainly true.

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