If you think you're trans or trans, if you want to be trans or trans, like there's no real trans people and fake trans people.

But also, like, there's not really a finite amount of resources. It's not like if you transition, then like a trans guy has to go off testosterone.

You know, like there is an infinite number of trans people.

When you ask the question, what is gender? And look beyond the Webster's dictionary definition, when you ask that, the answer is not simple.

And this goes for everybody, right? Trans or not.

Gender is complicated for everybody.

It dictates and informs every interaction, every moment of our lives, and that experience of gender also differs across

the world.

That is why I very much appreciate the clarity and nuance with which Tuck Woodstock is able

to speak about gender and the trans experience.

Tuck is the host of the long-running podcast called Gender Reveal, which is an amazing name.

They interview trans and non-binary folks and are a self-proclaimed gender detective.

After today's conversation, I think you will see why, so let's hear it.

From The Advocate magazine in Partnership with Glad, I'm Jeffrey Masters and this is LGBTQ and A.

So, gender. What the fuck, right? That's what I've been saying. I remember when I first started transitioning or thinking about

transitioning and I was so laser focused thinking about gender all the time. And the thing

that was the most freeing to me was to be like, oh, actually, I'm never going to think about it.

And I don't care because it's not real. And no matter how hard I think about it, it's not like

a math equation where someday I'm going to get the right answer. It's just fake. And so now how hard I think about it, it's not like a math equation where someday I'm

going to get the right answer. It's just fake. And so now I talk to people all the time who are baby

transes or who think they might be trans. And they're like, what is gender? And like, how do I know

if I'm trans or if I just want to be trans? And maybe I'm not binary or maybe I'm this or maybe I'm that. And I'm like, honestly, the key is to never try to figure out what gender is because

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