Turning Point or Temporary Reprieve? with Edward-Isaac Dovere

Battleground with Amanda Litman and Faiz Shakir

The Recount

Government, News, Politics

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🗓️ 27 May 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

What is the role of political journalism? Years from now, what will people take away from this period in the Democratic party's evolution? What role did former President Obama play in the 2020 primary election?

For the answers to these questions, and many more, Amanda and Faiz turn to to Edward-Isaac Dovere, lead political correspondent for "The Atlantic" and author of the new book, "Battle for the Soul: Inside the Democrats' Campaigns to Defeat Trump." The trio have a boisterous conversation that includes everything from Faiz and Isaac's Bernie Sanders impersonations, to Jill Biden's cursing, and an anecdote about a wistful Mike Bloomberg.

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0:00.0	I'm Fashikir.
0:04.7	I'm Amanda Lippman.
0:07.5	And this is Battleground, a podcast from the recount and I heart-rated.
0:14.3	This week we're talking to Edward Isaac DeVier, a staff writer for the Atlantic, its
0:17.8	lead political correspondent, and the author of a new book just out called Battle for the
0:22.0	Soul, Inside the Democrats' Campaigns to Defeat Trump.
0:25.1	You know, it's an odd conversation for me. I was a primary actor in this play as Bernie's
0:30.3	campaign manager.
0:31.3	Obviously, I was one of the actors who was seeking to defeat Donald Trump.
0:37.0	So it'll be fun to have a conversation.
0:38.5	I read the book and I feel like it has a lot of truths to it and parts of stories that
0:44.2	obviously have more to it than I'm aware of.
0:47.3	Fash, I think it's worth asking a bigger question here, which is in an ideal world, what
0:52.4	is the role of the political press in this process?
0:55.3	I would love political press that was very interested in outcomes and policy and personnel.
1:00.8	To the extent, personnel plays a role to the extent that there's outcomes attached to them.
1:05.6	How would Joe Biden govern?
1:07.5	Let's look at some of the people around him.
1:10.3	What would his policy do for people?
1:13.2	That type of journalism is not terribly exciting for a lot of political reporters.
1:17.7	I think there's some who just don't find policy as intriguing and to cover and do find the
1:24.8	gossip of campaigns and the process of campaigns and the ups and downs of campaigns, the tensions
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