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Two Indicators: Economics of the defense industry

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🗓️ 21 February 2024

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

The Department of Defense's proposed budget for 2024 is $842 billion. That is about 3.5% of the U.S.'s GDP. The military buys everything from pens and paper clips to fighter jets and submarines. But the market for military equipment is very different from the commercial market.

On today's episode, we're bringing you two stories from The Indicator's series on defense spending that explore that market. As the U.S. continues to send weapons to Ukraine and Israel, we first look at why defense costs are getting so high. Then, we dive into whether bare-bones manufacturing styles are leaving the U.S. military in a bind.

The original Indicator episodes were produced by Cooper Katz McKim with engineering from Maggie Luthar and James Willetts. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez and Angel Carreras. They were edited by Kate Concannon and Paddy Hirsch. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money's executive producer.

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

So there's this company called Transdime.

0:09.0

It's in the business of selling spare parts for helicopters and planes. And one of the parts they sell is this half inch piece of

0:15.8

metal called a drive pin.

0:17.8

Several years ago the military needed some of these drive pins and it contracted with Transdime

0:22.2

to buy some.

0:23.0

But then in 2019, Pentagon officials reviewed the deal

0:27.0

and found Transdime would charge 4,361 dollars

0:31.0

for this one little drive pen that the Pentagon says should have cost only $46.

0:38.4

We reached out to Transdime for comment and they dispute the Pentagon's math.

0:42.5

They said the price they quoted at the time

0:44.0

was fair for this relatively specialized part.

0:47.2

Still, for a half inch piece of metal,

0:49.7

some might say that's kind of steep.

0:51.8

It doesn't seem right, does it? So I guess the real

0:55.1

question is how do you get from $46 to $4,300, right? That by the way was Phil

1:01.6

McManus. He wasn't involved in the Transdime deal, but he does know a thing or two about military spending because he used to work for the Defense Department negotiating deals with defense contractors.

1:12.0

Phil says this drive-pin story is a particular. negotiating deals with defense contractors.

1:13.0

Phil says this drivepin story is a particularly extreme example of the government overpaying

1:17.8

for military equipment, but it's far from the only one, and this is a problem.

1:23.3

If you overspend for what you do buy,

1:26.5

you can buy less of what you need.

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