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The Good Fight

Tyler Cowen on Everything

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Yascha Mounk and Tyler Cowen also discuss AI and the state of the world economy. Tyler Cowen is an American economist, columnist, and blogger. Cowen is the Holbert L. Harris chair in economics at George Mason University, and is the co-author, with Alex Tabarrok, of the blog Marginal Revolution. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tyler Cowen discuss the likely economic futures of Europe, Asia, and Africa; how the United States should approach competition with China; and what role young people should ascribe to personal financial advancement in their career choices. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected]  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The stock market does not believe the tariffs will be severe. I can look at Trump's earlier

0:36.4

words dating back to the 1980s, and I can see Trump

0:40.0

truly believes his own talk about trade and tariffs, which would suggest something will happen.

0:45.6

You know, when you're in serious doubt, maybe sometimes you fall back on your core models.

0:50.6

A core model I have of American government is that enduring change tends to come on a bipartisan

0:56.1

basis, whether we like that or not.

0:58.3

I do see a bipartisan consensus against China, so my inclination is to expect much heavier tariffs on China.

1:06.1

Trump declares victory, get some symbolic concessions from Canada, Mexico and other places, and

1:12.0

that's what happens.

1:13.5

And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk.

1:22.0

My guest today is Tyler Cowen.

1:25.1

Tyler is a prominent economist who is the

1:28.5

Holbert L. Harris Chair at George Mason University. He is also a columnist for

1:34.7

Bloomberg and writes the excellent blog Marginal Revolution. I changed up the

1:39.4

style of his podcast a little bit for this week to match Tyler's intellectual temperament and the way

1:45.3

he runs his own excellent podcast. So rather than going in depth in one or two or perhaps

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