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All right this is the second podcast in the Liverpool studio since

Wild Man died yesterday we interviewed the son of a woman who was murdered by Peter Sutcliffe, who's known as the Yorkshire Ripper,

very emotional, took us on a journey, hope you guys have seen that one by now.

And today I've got a

you tuber in here he's running a channel called a true blue lifestyle

the link all his links and his Instagram are going to be in the description box below the video,

but Kiran has got a hell of a story to tell, but it's not glamorizing the lifestyle, he's been through it in Manchester. Now he helps

young people, young offenders, speaks to school kids. So there's a good social

message coming out of this and if anyone would like Kieran to come in and do a

talk his links are in the description box he responds to his comments on YouTube and he responds to his messages on

Instagram. So before we get into your story then here and thanks for coming on.

How long you been doing this YouTube channel? I started last year when I came out of prison about six weeks after I got out.

And then I was, I've done a few videos but then the stresses of life kind of got the better of me then I kind of fell off and

gave up a bit you know what I mean but then it's like because I started off from a case I came out of prison November 2019 then I was in a

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