Welcome back to Potsay of the World. I'm Tommy Vittor. Ben Rhodes. Ben, we're in studio.

Yeah, this is really fun. Glad that this stretch of travel is over. Yeah, how was KL? How's

Kuala Lumpur? It was cool. I mean, we had, I mentioned we had like 200 young leaders from

Cross Asia Pacific region. And you know, I love feeling better about the world. Yeah, I mean,

these are like earnest kids working their butts off in civil society and a lot of people fighting

climate change. Actually, the last person I met with there was someone who's leading the efforts

on climate change in Micronesia. Okay. Oh, yeah. And like literally like hearing her talk about how

it's not a future scenario like the coast or being eroded. Part of what happens is the saltwater

kind of gets into the water supply. Like the fishing has to be pushed back. Like so people's lives

are already changing. Every person who lives in her community is already dealing with the effects

climate change. And they created none of the problem. And they're counting on the rest of us to

prevent their habitat from literally disappearing. Right? So, you know, there's a lot of mobilization

happening, but a lot of challenges. Yeah. Also, all the people we used to like call Obama a

loof or professorial or like not social with members of Congress. Get him in a room with 200

kids who are activists. Yeah. And then he's like the happiest you'll ever see. He told me, yeah,

he said like this is stuff that makes him happiest. Right. And you go and you know, you see people,

you know, beginning to organize, being immobilized. And you know, that's the long game. Yeah,

right. But you know, we have to make sure that there's something for them to to deal with in 10 or

20. That's right. Well, Obama was always good at making us remember the long, long game, especially

when it comes to social justice. So, we have a fantastic show today. We're going to start the show

with our guest today who is David Lamy. You guys have heard him on the show before. He's a member

of parliament from Tottenham. He's been in office since 2000. Remember the labor party. He's going

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