UNLOCKED: UK Diplomat Ian Proud Full Interview

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🗓️ 12 July 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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From July 2014 to February 2019, veteran diplomat Ian Proud was posted to the British Embassy in Moscow where he advised UK Ministers on sanctions against Russia.

His embrace of diplomacy over war made him a Misfit in Moscow.

Proud joins Useful Idiots to explain how British diplomacy failed in Russia, and how a strategy other than aggression and saber-rattling could have averted Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. He gives a complex history of the conflict, beginning with the 2014 West-backed coup in Ukraine, and culminating in Boris Johnson’s infamous in person threat to Zelensky that he must reject a peace deal.

We ask Ian if it was Biden who instructed Johnson to do so.

And today, with a (“so-called”) peace summit convened by the Ukrainian government and Putin making his most concrete peace offer to date, Ian’s long history as a British diplomat in Moscow gives us a chance to pull back the curtain on the talks that could potentially end the proxy war.

Subscribe to hear the full interview with Ian Proud where he explains:

•How the US’s Victoria Nuland undermined peace talks at every step since 2014

•Boris Johnson’s admission that the proxy war is about “defending western hegemony” (and his embarrassing meeting with the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion)

•The UK’s role in the dirty war in Syria

•The UK’s role in aiding Israel’s genocidal assault on Gaza

•How much the British government and its allies invest in propaganda (or, as they call it, strategic communications) to deceive the public into going along with their proxy wars

•And the 2024 US presidential election: Would there would be any foreign policy difference between Biden and Trump?

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0:00.0	For this week's guest, we are joined by Ian Proud. He is a former British diplomat who served
0:05.8	from 1999 to 2023. From July 2014 to February 2019, he was posted to the British embassy in Moscow, where he advised
0:17.8	UK ministers on sanctions against Russia, and he's written about his experience with a brand
0:22.2	new book. It's called a
0:23.3	misfit in Moscow, how British diplomacy in Russia failed. And we're going to speak
0:29.1	to Ian about that and also about the state of the proxy war in Ukraine and he has a lot of really interesting things to share with us about that.
0:36.0	So let's go to Ian Proud.
0:45.0	Ian Proud, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks very much inviting me.
0:47.0	It's pretty nice to meet you both.
0:48.0	Well, likewise, and it's great to have you on because you are a veteran diplomat, and there's been some talk of diplomacy recently
0:56.5	with a peace summit a so-called peace summit convened by the Ukrainian government
1:01.1	with its international backers.
1:04.1	There's also been Vladimir Putin making his most concrete public offer
1:08.8	of peace with Ukraine today.
1:11.2	So I'm curious your reaction to all of this. Let's start with the Peace Summit.
1:14.0	This was a big deal for the Ukrainian government. A lot was writing on the summit for them.
1:20.0	What is your assessment of how things went?
1:22.0	I mean, I think you summed up well, Aaron, by saying the so-called peace of it,
1:25.0	because really, two-thirds of the representatives there were from European countries or Western allies that have sanctioned Russia,
1:31.0	and there's a handful of 27 other countries that kind of signed
1:33.8	on to this declaration including global titans like Camulus and Timoleste.
1:38.9	But actually what it really proved was that the Global South and like the Brix group was turned off by this,
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