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Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Bob and Friends podcast.

We're so glad you're here.

And I'm with my friend Ian Kron.

If you haven't heard of him, welcome to Earth.

He's such an accomplished author and nice guy and all that still hails from

Tennessee. And Ian, welcome to the podcast. Bob, it is awesome to be here with you. I know. We've

logged some miles together over the years. I remember I still get people talk to me about an

Enneagram podcast we did, gosh, years and years ago. I remember I was up in Canada and Maria

happened to be walking by and she sat down with us and we figured me out what a flaming

Enneagram 7 is. Do you remember doing that? I remember it well. I've done 300 shows, Bob, and I can tell you

I still remember that one. That's pretty fun. Tell people a little bit who haven't bumped into you,

what it is that you spend your time doing and a little bit about who you are, and we're going to eventually

talk about this new book that you have coming out.

Well, I am someone who really enjoys a portfolio life.

I'm a psychotherapist.

I'm a coach, so I see a regular stable of clients.

I am an Episcopal priest, and I volunteer at the Episcopal Chapel at

Vanderbilt University. I am an author, a podcaster, and do lots of Enneagram workshops for

corporations and... You sound like Fletch remember you know he had all those

identifications that came out of his wallet you got so many different things that you do and I love that

because uh you are like it's sometimes people think of their careers as an entree like this is what

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