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Code Switch

Untangling the history of Black rights on Native land

Code Switch

NPR

Society & Culture

4.614.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

How the criminal legal system considers who is and isn't Native, and what that means for the Black people who are members of tribal nations. This reporting is part of an audio documentary from Audible called Tribal Justice: The Struggle for Black Rights on Native Land.

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0:23.7

Just a heads up, y'all.

0:26.0

The following episode contains scenes of violence.

0:30.2

What's good?

0:31.1

You're listening to Code Switch.

0:32.8

I'm Gene Demby.

0:34.4

I want to introduce you to Michael Hill.

0:37.0

He lives in Oak Mogi, Oklahoma, which is not far from Tulsa.

0:40.9

Michael was a veteran.

0:41.9

He's a father of three.

0:43.0

And after he left the military, Michael moved back to Oklahoma.

0:46.9

That's where he was able to buy home for his family.

0:49.7

The house is pretty spacey, big yard.

0:53.1

I bought the house for my kids, you know,

0:54.7

and for me to be able to have family leave into my house,

0:57.9

where everyone won't feel like they're stacked on top of each other by the neighbor,

1:01.5

so my kids can run around the yard.

1:03.3

Family can come over.

1:04.8

You know, I felt real proud of myself for doing that hard work paid off for me.

1:10.8

Michael loves working with kids.

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