We're going to do something different this week on the podcast by turning the

microphone around and doing exactly what the title of this show suggests by

going inside the Hive. I'm going to sit down with the editor of Vanity Fair's the Hive, John Kelly, and no, not

the John Kelly, who is the chief of staff of the White House right now, this is a different

John Kelly, and we're going to discuss what's really going on in Silicon Valley.

We're going to talk about Travis Kalinick and how his impatient built Uber into a 70 billion dollar company, but at what cost?

We'll talk about what Mark Zuckerberg

is really doing on his road trip that looks awfully like a presidential bid and

if Twitter is going to survive the Donald Trump apocalypse and if it does what exactly is Jack is

the Donald Trump apocalypse. And if it does, what exactly is Jack Dorsey's plan to save the company or is it just doomed?

I'll answer all those questions and more, but first I want to pass the microphone over to my editor, John

Kelly.

Nick, thanks for having me.

It is an honor and a privilege to be on Inside the Hive.

Thanks for coming on the show.

I wanted to talk to you first about Uber. One of the things that you've

done as much as anybody I know is right about how the origin of these Silicon

Valley companies end up affecting them when they're kind of more mature.

Can you tell me a little bit about how Uber was founded and why it's not so surprising

that it has this bombastic controversial leader who even in exile seems to be trying to

regain the reclaim the throne of his company?

Yeah I mean I think the way to kind of to set this up is really to think about the one the only Mr Black Turtle

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