It's so maddening that a company who makes a better product for Canada, Australia, India, all of Europe

can make a better, safer product without artificial food dyes for all those other countries,

but not their own country. And for them to expect Americans are just going to sit back and take it.

I mean, this is the moment that we've said no more.

We've had enough.

We're not going to buy your product anymore.

And we're going to show you where it hurts.

And I hope that any food company that's listening to this conversation and has seen what's gone down,

this is not the way to handle a movement like this, because all it did

was, again, anger us and spark the fire. Again, if they could just let us in, like you said,

it would have been inoculated the situation. We would have said, oh, they're listening. Okay,

we can sit back and wait now and see what happens, right? Instead, it just energized every one of us. It's

actually better for the movement that that happened. I feel like you're so in like the Maha fold

and did you go do any campaigning at all? No, I, you know, I got out of politics so many years ago.

I was a delegate for President Obama in 2008. Oh, really? Well, yeah. And you can say

I did a lot of politicking back then to get that. And, you know, just I went around the country.

I mean, I was knocking on doors. I was canvassing. I was, it was nonstop. I was really passionate

about getting him elected the first time around.

And then the second time around, I ran to be a delegate again to hold him accountable for his

promises that he didn't make. You know, he had said that he wanted to label genetically engineered

ingredients. And this was something that, you know, unfortunately, the food industry just completely

co-opted, the messaging from the White House. I mean, they shifted, you know, Michelle Obama

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