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Victor Davis Hanson: Keep Your Enemies Close…But NOT In Your Groupchats

The Daily Signal Podcast

The Daily Signal

News, Government, Politics, Daily News

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Did Jeffery Goldberg really have access to top secret “war plans”? When National Security Adviser Mike Waltz allegedly added Jeffrey Goldberg, editor of The Atlantic, to an encrypted groupchat with other senior Trump administration members, Goldberg remained silent for over a week, listening in on discussions before publishing a bombshell exposé on March 24th. Victor Davis Hanson reviews this debacle on today’s episode of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words.”   “ He is one of the most hard-left critics of the Trump administration imaginable. But he was on there. And he listened to these conversations, apparently, for about 10 days. And then, when he was waiting and—he never notified anybody that they had mistakenly put his name on the inclusion list to this confidential information.   “ Bottom line, if you're in the Trump administration, do not, do not under any circumstances think you can be friends with people who despise you. And this is a lesson that I hope Mike Waltz learns.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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There's been a story out about a leak with national security implications.

0:33.0

About 10 days ago, around March 15th, the security team of the Trump administration, which included

0:38.4

Pete Hexas, Marco Rubio, J.D. Vance, the vice president, advisor Stephen Miller, some intelligence

0:44.8

officials, Telsie Gabbard. There's about 15 people on it. But here's what happened.

0:49.3

Somebody, and allegedly it's national security advisor Michael Walts, who was one of the architects of this group chat that was supposedly encrypted, put Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of the Atlantic.

1:01.0

I mean, this is insane. Bottom line, if you're in the Trump administration, do not, do not under any circumstances. Thank you. You can be friends with people who despise you.

1:22.3

Hello, this is Victor Davis-Hansson for the Daily Signal. There's been a story out this week about a leak

1:29.4

with national security implications. Apparently about 10 days ago, around March 15th,

1:37.1

the security team of the Trump administration, which included Pete Hexas, the defense secretary,

1:42.3

Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, J.D. Vance, the

1:46.8

vice president, advisor, Stephen Miller, Susan Wiles, another presidential advisor, some intelligence

1:53.3

officials, John Radcliffe, head of the CIA, Tulsi Gabbard. There's about 15 people on it.

1:59.1

And they were communicating from an inherited protocol

2:03.7

from the Biden administration and encrypted signal media vehicles so that they could talk

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