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Dark House

Waco Siege Part 2: Feat. Cult Scholar Daniella Mestyanek Young

Dark House

House Beautiful/Hearst

Religion & Spirituality, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.4757 Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Following their investigation into New Mount Carmel Center, Hadley and Alyssa resume their discussion of the infamous 1993 Waco siege. Hoping to better understand the actions of those embroiled in the conflict, they’re joined by author and cult scholar Daniella Mestyanek Young, who, as a cult survivor and Army veteran with a Masters in Organizational Psychology, provides valuable insight into the perspectives of each side. Speaking to her own experiences, Daniella talks about growing up in the Children of God cult as well as her time serving in the Army, and the parallels she’s noticed between those two chapters in her life. The hosts also pick her brain on all things coercive control, including how cult leaders utilize isolated locations and strict living conditions to control their followers. Wrapping up the episode, Alyssa and Hadley reflect on the stories they shared this season.  SWEEPSTAKES *IMPORTANT DISCLOSURE: Following @Darkhousepodcast and liking Darkhouse’s ‘Uncultured’ Memoir sweepstakes post is required to enter Darkhouse’s ‘Uncultured’ Memoir Sweepstakes and does not necessarily signify an endorsement of the brand or post.* NO PURCH. NEC. TO ENTER OR WIN. Darkhouse ‘Uncultured’ Memoir Sweepstakes. Sponsored by Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. From 11/15/23 at 12:01 AM (ET) - 11/22/23, at 11:59 PM (ET), follow @Darkhousepodcast on Instagram and like Darkhouse’s ‘Uncultured’ Memoir sweepstakes post. Open to US, DC, & Canada (excluding Quebec) residents from age of majority. Void in Puerto Rico. Subj. to rules at https://www.housebeautiful.com/promotions/sweeps/a45701029/darkhouse-uncultured-memoir-sweepstakes-2023/. CREDITS Alyssa Fiorentino - Co-host & Producer Hadley Mendelsohn - Co-host & Producer Jessy Caron - Producer & Audio Editor To advertise on the show: https://www.advertisecast.com/DarkHouse or email us at [email protected].  RELATED LINKS ‘Uncultured: A Memoir’ by Daniella Mestyanek Young: https://amzn.to/497qeIQ  ‘Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism’ by Amanda Montell: https://amzn.to/406FPnQ  “Joaquin Phoenix and Rose McGowan Spent Their Early Years in a Religious Cult. Then it Became Infamous.” Esquire (ARTICLE): https://bit.ly/3Q7gTb9  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Really when we say cult, we're just trying to describe coercive control.

0:33.8

So I always say if it's an individual, we call it abuse.

0:36.7

And if it's a group, we call it a cult.

0:52.4

Welcome back to Dark House. I'm Alyssa Furentino.

0:56.0

And I'm Hadley Mendelsohn. We're your hosts. If you're new here in each episode, we dig into the backstory of a house that is allegedly haunted or notorious for some reason or another.

1:05.5

We'll talk about who lived there, who died there, and all the events that led to its eventual infamy.

1:10.6

You are currently listening to Part 2 of our discussion of the infamous 1993 Waco Siege.

1:16.7

Today's episode is also the final episode of Season 3.

1:19.8

Which is too sad for me to even think about right now, but the bright side is we're ending on a high note.

1:25.7

So true.

1:26.6

Last week we went over as much as we

1:28.7

possibly could about New Mount Carmel Center in Waco, Texas, which had been home to a religious

1:33.3

cult known as the Branch Divideans and their leader, self-proclaimed prophet David Koresh. We talked

1:38.6

about how the group started and all of its many tumultuous phases and leaders prior to Koresh

1:43.4

taking over in the mid-80s.

1:45.3

And we of course touched on the tragic events of 1993, focusing on how the construction and

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