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Crime Junkie

WANTED: Justice for Rhys Pocan & MMIW Part 2

Crime Junkie

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True Crime

4.7358.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In 2021, we set out to cover the case of Rhys Pocan, a 35-year-old Indigenous woman who was murdered in Wisconsin in the ‘80s. But while we were in the field, we uncovered a disturbing pattern of murders with similarities to Rhys’ that were just too blatant to ignore. So, we spent the next three years working with local and federal law enforcement to try and get to the bottom of it.

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0:00.0

Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host, Ashley Flowers. And I'm Britt. And this is part two of our

0:06.7

look into Reese Pocan's story. So if you haven't heard the first part, please go back and listen

0:12.5

because we're picking up right where we left off. When our reporter Emily realizes that this case

0:18.5

goes way beyond Reese, and she discovers a disturbing pattern of dismemberments

0:23.9

turning up all around Wisconsin.

0:27.1

This episode will focus on two of those other victims

0:30.7

and everything that we could find out about their cases

0:33.9

from loved ones, detectives, tribal chiefs, coroners, and police reports.

0:39.3

This is the story of Ray Tortellat and Julia Baez.

1:23.1

Music You know, I'm going to By searching through newspaper archives and public records databases, our reporter Emily started finding more dismemberment victims in Wisconsin.

1:30.0

In the years surrounding Reese's murder, at least 12 people, 11 of them women were found whose heads or hands had been cut off during or after their murders.

1:34.8

Now, a handful of these women are still unidentified, and most of the cases have never been

1:40.3

solved.

1:41.0

All in different jurisdictions?

1:42.9

For the most part, yes, which we're thinking is maybe why

1:46.0

no one has kind of looked at this holistically before. And like when you see this, we haven't

1:52.3

come across something like this. Like, who are you supposed to tell? I mean, like, we have the most

1:56.1

badass group of women here at AudioChug doing the absolute Lord's work, but like try calling up the FBI

2:01.8

and saying that you have a podcast and there might be a serial killer.

2:04.9

Right.

2:05.5

Honestly, it's going to be a little easier because crime junkie actually is pretty well known

2:09.9

now.

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