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🗓️ 21 February 2022
⏱️ 100 minutes
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0:00.0 | If you can blow up this Russian threat, in a way it's ideal because that suggests you need |
0:06.0 | lots and lots and lots of tanks, lots and lots and lots of artillery, but of course at the same time |
0:11.9 | you're never going to have to use them you know so you're not actually going to fight or or risk you know |
0:18.3 | God forbid nuclear catastrophe so what what you get out of this is is what I have to say I think a lot of the generals are really about, which is bigger budgets. You're here. You're here. Welcome, come in right this way. Can I offer you a hot glass of oat milk? |
0:49.0 | Mm, yes, it does curdle weird, doesn't it? |
0:54.0 | But it's better than Almond probably welcome. |
0:56.8 | I don't know who I am today, but I am Francesca Fiorendini every other day. |
1:02.1 | This is the Bituation Room podcast. You're here, you're listening, you've pressed play, there's no turning back. Go with it. We've got such a good show today. |
1:13.8 | We are breaking down the Ukraine, Russia, United States, |
1:20.2 | curfuffle. |
1:21.0 | That's what I'm gonna call it. |
1:21.8 | It's gonna be the world curfuffle. That's what I'm going to call it. It's going to be the world, |
1:24.0 | Kerfuffle 3, not a war. I'm anti-war. So I'm pro-kerfuffle. |
1:30.0 | I'm actually not pro-kerfuffle. It's at much messier, far more weapons contractors. |
1:37.0 | It's like a World War III but just with chickens. That's what I imagine a kerfuffle is. But no we're going to be |
1:45.1 | breaking it down and we will get serious about it because my guest is Anatole |
1:51.2 | Leaven who's a researcher at the Quincy Institute for responsible |
1:56.3 | state craft. |
1:57.6 | That's how you know, they mean business. |
2:00.1 | Very excited to have him on to school us to explain what the hell is going on. |
2:05.4 | Is there going to be a war? |
2:06.8 | When? Why? Why not? |
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