Voice message.

Received from J. Wortham, Hawaii, December 2021.

And also, I have desperately wanted to paddle to an island since I've been here because it's

a thing that people often do and you can anchor the boat and snorkel and I totally get it.

And at the same time, I also opted and read the news and so I know just how many people are swept away into the ocean every year.

But my man, he was like, he said, let me see your phone, he said, put it down on this map.

The motor ocean was like, swimming like paddles worth that.

Sometimes, no is also the best answer despite how amazing what needs to happen looks like,

I came back, I said Kevin, he said, you ought to make it, I said Kevin, has anybody made it?

It's really the riddle I want to leave you with. Has anybody made it that you have sent out there?

Anyway, my dear, my beans are so good, my greens are cleaned, I made sorrel this year for the first time so that is steeped and I'm feeling pretty good.

What are you doing tonight?

Jay Wortham. Yes. You sent me that voice note from Hawaii while you were gone for a long time, writing a book.

I did. And now you are sitting across from me in New York City in a studio.

I am here. You are. Dress like a vision and cream confirm.

Harfe. Absolutely. So I think we should just start.

I'm Wesley Morris.

I'm sorry.

Who's that?

I don't know some covers in there.

I'm Wesley Morris. I'm Jay Wortham.

Where two culture writers at the New York Times?

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