Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, June 3rd,

24 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria and as always before we dive into this week's episode, I want to thank those of you who make talk nerdy possible.

Remember, this show is and will always be 100% free to download.

I used to sell a lot of ads on the show.

You've noticed that that has really dried up and that sort of happened across the podcast community.

So unfortunately we're pretty much completely reliant on support from folks just like you.

And so many of you have shown up over the years and I'm just so

incredibly grateful and I know that the listeners who you know are not in a position

to support which is totally okay that they too are grateful for

the really generous support of the donors to the show.

So if you're interested in making a per episode donation

all you've got to do is visit Patreon.com slash talk nerdy

where you can learn more. And of course as I always love to do I want to thank in

person the top donors this week. They include Anubaravage, Daniel

Lang, David J. E. Smith, Mary Niva, Brian Holden, David Compton, Gabrielle F. Hormillo, Joe Wilkinson, Pasquale

Gilati, and Ul Rica Hagman.

All right, so this is, I always say this, this is a fun one, this is an exciting one and an important

one for me as well.

So about a month ago, I was invited to give the keynote address at the Western Canadian Reason Conference,

weekend reason, which took place in Calgary.

And it was such a warm and inviting and just lovely conference that was presented by the Rocky Mountain atheist

that I wanted to make sure that I had one of the people who made this entire thing possible.

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