We Have a Warped View of Crime with Jeff Asher

Factually! with Adam Conover

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Comedy

4.4 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

So much of today’s political policy is shaped by the public perception of crime—but what if that perception isn’t accurate to begin with? Donald Trump essentially won the election by spinning tall tales of record-level violent crime, and instead of pushing back, the Democrats mostly went along with it. But are things really as bad as they seem? And would we even know if they were? This week, Adam sits down with Jeff Asher, a leading expert on crime data and co-founder of the analytics firm AH Datalytics, to break it all down. They discuss the reality of crime in America, how flawed crime reporting has created roadblocks to meaningful criminal justice reform, and who stands to gain from controlling the narrative around crime in our country.

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0:00.0	This is a headgum podcast.
0:05.0	I don't know the truth.
0:08.3	I don't know the way.
0:10.9	I don't know what to think.
0:13.6	I don't know what to say.
0:16.6	Yeah, but that's all right.
0:19.4	That's okay.
0:22.0	I don't know anything.
0:25.7	Hey there.
0:26.4	Welcome to Factually.
0:27.3	I'm Adam Conover.
0:28.2	Thanks for joining me again.
0:29.5	You know, crime has been one of the major stories of the past couple years.
0:33.8	If you turn on the local news or Fox, you will be bombarded with news stories about how crime in America is out of control, especially in cities and especially in blue cities.
0:45.0	Donald Trump won the election that way by stoking fear about crime, which he blamed on immigrants, and especially violent crime, which he especially blamed on violent immigrants.
0:55.2	But you know what? It wasn't just Trump. Both parties, Republican and Democrat,
1:00.4	ran on tough on crime messaging. California, a deep blue state, overwhelmingly passed a ballot
1:06.8	measure to increase penalties for theft and drug offenses. Colorado also blue did something similar.
1:13.1	And that means that criminal justice reform, a cause that I care about a lot and have covered
1:17.1	for many years on every single one of my platforms and shows, is on the ropes right now.
1:23.1	I mean, if you were to ask the average American or definitely the average politician,
1:26.5	you will probably
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