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Explain It to Me

We need to rethink discipline in schools

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

For many Black children, their first encounter with the discrimination that will trail them their whole lives comes from the school system — a system where they are five times more likely to attend a segregated school than their white counterparts. This early exposure to segregation is one of many possible factors contributing to what’s known as the racial achievement gap — the gap between Black and white students’ test scores. Education experts have looked to a number of factors as root causes of the gap: family income, single parenthood, school resources. Another is the disparities in school discipline. In today’s episode of The Weeds, we dig into school discipline and the achievement gap with Francis Pearman of Stanford University’s Graduate School of Education. Read more: Discrimination everywhere | Vox and Capital B Abbott Elementary Recap: Janine and Gregory Sitting in a Tree | Vulture Excerpt: Collective Racial Bias and the Black-White Test Score Gap Schools are still segregated, and Black children are paying a price | Economic Policy Institute Full study: Collective Racial Bias and the Black-White Test Score Gap | SpringerLink Submit your policy questions! We want to know what you’re curious about. Credits: Jonquilyn Hill, host Sofi LaLonde, producer Cristian Ayala, engineer A.M. Hall, editorial director of talk podcasts Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a donation to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

My childhood in a nutshell, well it all started in Northampton in the 80s.

0:06.4

I didn't even know I was in the closet but I did find George Mikel in there.

0:10.9

My dad was the manager of the local football club, but the only thing I was tackling was

0:15.2

a good act of a Christie.

0:16.6

I don't know why I'm telling you about it.

0:18.6

They've only gone and turned it into a series, so do yourself a favour and watch my

0:22.8

awkward years in glorious technicala, changing end screen free on ITVX.

0:28.1

Comedy is back in the building.

0:58.3

I'm John Flanhill and this is The Weeds.

1:08.2

When you're a black person living in America, it can feel like discrimination is lurking

1:12.7

at every turn.

1:14.7

And if I'm honest, when I was younger, there were times that I thought this creeping

1:19.1

feeling was paranoia on my end.

1:22.4

But no, there are real hard numbers that prove this.

1:26.0

The average black person makes 30% less than the average white person.

1:30.7

Black people have to wait for about 10 more seconds than their white counterparts for cars

1:35.1

to yield to them at a crosswalk.

1:37.0

Well-being black people spend almost an hour of their day waiting, compared to 28 minutes

1:41.6

for their high income white counterparts.

1:43.8

Black people have a 74% greater chance at longer wait times at polling precincts.

1:49.7

The life expectancy for white people is over five years longer than for black people.

1:55.9

For many black children, the first time they experience this kind of discrimination is

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