Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast. I have the distinct pleasure of sitting this afternoon or for her this evening with Kat Lindley. Kat Lindley is the president of the Global Health Project. She is also a family physician from Texas as you will detect from her accent.

Kat and I have become friends in the COVID dissident movement and Kat has been a leader along with David Bell and Merrill Nas of the fight against the Whose Pandemic Preparedness Treaty and International Health Regulations.

Cat, welcome to Dark Horse.

Thanks for having me, Brett.

So the occasion of our gathering today is that there have been some changes with respect

to the who pandemic treaty and international health regulations.

It looks to the untrained eye like we have gained some major concessions.

There are some big changes afoot at the World Health Organization.

And we both thought it would be worthwhile

to look at what has changed and what we think it means.

So, Kat, do you want to lay out what has changed at the World Health Organization?

Sure. I would like to start by saying that what we've seen in past months is actually a great movement of people who have

listened to some of us and started being concerned with some of the things that have been

discussing at the World Health Organization.

So we've seen this increased narrative of,

you know, potential disease X, avian flu,

and things like that.

All while these two documents

have to be negotiated, renegotiated, and all that.

So recently this past week we have seen a new, you know, recommendations, the new negotiations on the pandemic treaty and the amendments

to international health regulation.

Overall when you look at it and for those who are on Twitter and have seen a lot of people saying how they've

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