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Well very well very pleased to be here. Very pleased to have you on. First of all, we'll promote your book straight away, the visual detox. Very interesting, especially with all the stuff that people are consuming. There's billions of uploads every day online and I think we see is it

10,000 it says in a break. You're consuming 10,000 images every day.

And that's just to tell you how to detox. Where can people buy you about first and foremost?

Literally everywhere so it's been published with Penguin. You can find it to them with

you H Smith, Waterston, Dance online, Amazon, but it's really the idea that

everything that you see is shaping you and shaping your brain.

Like everything that we say actually you remember 20% of it, but everything that you see you remember

60% of it.

And all those images are shaping the way you have desires or insecurities or you want to buy certain products like it's the understanding that those visuals are shaping you.

We're getting programmed.

Well you're getting influenced visually but you don't tend to ever think of visuals.

You tend to only think of words are really shaping you. So it's kind of

how do you train your eyes to get of understand that this is really shaping you how do you also train your eyes

especially with the rise of visual misinformation to challenge what you're looking at is it

real is it fake is it you know is it pushing you to do an action that you don't want to do?

Is it triggering you emotionally?

It's really like tuning into a world that has become overtly visuals, but we do not spend time in the lighting.

Yeah, before we get into all,

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