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Woman's Hour

Weekend Woman’s Hour: Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson, Author Marni Appleton, Medieval medicine, Women and prison

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

One manifesto pledge of the incoming Labour government was to provide over 3000 new nurseries in empty school classrooms in England. The first 300 of these will open by September and offer an average of 20 places each. Nuala McGovern speaks to Bridget Phillipson, Secretary of State for Education, about this announcement and also about the current state of provision and funding for children with special education needs.

Darkly funny, unsettling, and razor-sharp, I Hope You’re Happy by Marni Appleton is a haunting collection of short stories exploring modern womanhood through the lens of horror and satire. From viral photos to eerie performances in dead-end jobs, these stories capture the weirdness of millennial life... where power struggles, fleeting connections, and social media anxieties collide with the surreal. Marni joined Nuala to discuss the themes and her inspiration.

A new exhibition called Curious Cures at Cambridge University Library explores medicine in the medieval era. Dozens of unique medical manuscripts, recipes, cures and guides to healthy living from the 14th and 15th centuries are on display. To discuss women’s role in medieval medicine, Nuala was joined by the exhibition’s curator and medieval manuscripts specialist, Dr James Freeman.

The Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood believes “prison isn’t working” for women and wants to reduce the number of female prisoners. Nuala speaks to Scarlett Roberts, a former prisoner and is now a Churchill Fellow and to former prisoner Jules Rowan, who co-hosts the Life After Prison podcast. They are joined by former prisoner officer and former Head of Security and Operations at HMP Wormwood Scrubs Vanessa Frake-Harris, and by prison Intelligence Analyst, author of Five by Five, Claire Wilson and Lucy Russell, Head of Policy and Public Affairs at the charity Women in Prison.

The Neonatal Care Act starts tomorrow. It allows employed parents to take up to 12 weeks of additional leave on top of their maternity or paternity leave if their newborn baby stays in hospital for more than seven days. We hear from Catriona Ogilvy, founder of premature baby charity The Smallest Things, who has been fighting for this law change for 10 years.

Echo vom Eierstock is Switzerland’s first feminist yodelling choir. Elena Kaiser is their founder and joined Nuala to discuss where her love of yodelling came from, and why she is challenging the make-up of traditional yodelling choirs and songs.

Presenter: Nuala McGovern Producer: Annette Wells Editor: Emma Pearce

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi Curios, I'm Dara Brien.

0:03.0

And I'm Hannah Frye.

0:04.0

And we are back for another series of curious cases.

0:07.0

Where we investigate the scientific mysteries sent in by you.

0:11.0

I would like to know if anything in the universe is truly invisible.

0:14.0

Why do we lie?

0:16.0

What happens to our brains when we fall in love?

0:19.0

We tackle the mysteries of the universe through audacious experiments and expert insight.

0:23.9

Curious cases.

0:24.9

Listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:29.8

BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

0:33.5

Hello, I'm Nula McGovern and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:38.2

Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast.

0:44.7

Hello and welcome to a selection of standout moments from the week.

0:48.6

Coming up today, Bridget Philipson, the Secretary of State for Education on her announcement of 300 new school-based nurseries,

0:56.6

but just how far will they go to plugging the gap in parts of the country called childcare deserts?

1:02.5

Also, stargazing, hares, wombs and applesauce.

1:06.4

Just some of the wellness treatments employed by medieval women and other curious cures from an exhibition

1:12.5

that is on at Cambridge University. We'll hear more about that. We have the author Marnie Appleton

1:18.8

on her new book of short stories. I hope you're happy is the title. And it's about

1:24.2

navigating millennial womanhood. It's riveting and thought-provoking.

1:29.2

Plus, the woman who has campaigned for over a decade,

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