This is The Pitchfork Review, the show about the musicians we're obsessed with and the albums you need to know right now.

I'm Pugia Patel, the editor-in-chief, and today we're going to talk about new music from Wise Blood and Dream Unending.

They're both playful and immersive artists whose new records were made during lockdown in the pandemic.

And if you aren't familiar with them yet, these records are the perfect gateway into late fall and winter.

A great soundtrack for, let's say, an existential spiral under a gravity blanket.

Yeah, like you said, fun.

Yeah, fun, playful.

Here with me now is Jeremy Larson, our reviews editor.

Jeremy, how you doing?

You know, I'm pretty good.

Look, one of these bands we're going to talk about is a Doom Metal Duo.

The other is a dreamy chamber pop project.

You'd think Wise Blood is the doom band, and Dream

Unending is the dreamy chamber pop project, but you'd be wrong.

And I'm excited for our guest today, Associate Editor Sam Sadomsky, who has both interviewed

Wise Blood for Pitchfork more than once and also happens to be our resident metal expert.

So we'll be back with him in just a minute.

Thank you. So we're back with Sam Sadomsky. Hey, Sam. Hey, what's up, France. We're here to talk about an artist that is a pitchfork favorite, Wise Blood, who is the musician, Natalie, Merring, and her latest album latest album and The Darkness Hearts Aglow.

Like we are big fans, but for those who might not be familiar with her work, what do they need to know, Sam?

To me, Natalie is one of the best songwriters going right now.

I think she works on a scale that I find really uncommon in indie music or just singer-songwriter stuff in general.

And she's kind of on this role right now where her records, they keep getting bigger and

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