The culture is the culture.

The culture is the culture.

It's 4 to 6A to be, competitive excellence and the brotherhood.

The plan to win has never changed. So the culture here and the plan to win is always going to be here in our state.

Welcome back to 4 to 6 with A&B, your high state podcast.

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This is Bill Landis, joined by Ari Wasserman.

Ari, there's a lot of shit going on.

But I want to start here, and this can be a very brief conversation.

But I just want to see where you're at.

I'm looking at these playoff rankings.

There's no shot, right?

I think there's no shot.

I mean, you can, like, talk yourself into it.

I just think the reason why there's no shot is because even if Michigan loses,

they probably would still go, right?

Over Ohio State if it came to that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, I think Michigan is Ohio State's roadblock,

and, like, I see a lot of Ohio State tweets in the atmosphere of just, like,

what if all these four things happen and just like, let it go, dude, it's over.

Like, you know, and all those things aren't going to happen anyway.

So, you know, but they need, well, so in theory you would need Michigan to lose, Cincinnati to lose, and Bama to lose.

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