Welcome to Questions from the Closet. I'm Ben Shalatti.

And I'm Charlie Bird. Each episode, we discuss the question we commonly get asked as LGBTQ

Liar Day Saints.

We're not trying to answer this question or come to consensus, but simply sharing our

perspectives. Today's question is, oh shoot, I just had it order to go. Today's question

is, what do I do if listening to conference first? Ben and I are not terribly diverse and

we share many opinions of our experiences. For example, both of us watch conference

this year, this October. Yeah, two days ago.

One hundred and ninety-fourth semiannual general conference. Is that right? I don't know

the number. However, there are some pretty big differences. For example, you went in person

and I watched it at home with my family, because I'm in Washington State right now visiting

home. Hence this virtual recording. But yeah, I went in person. It was kind of like a

surprise last minute thing. It was actually, I was laughing so hard because the night before

Ryan was like, I'm so glad we're not going to the conference center. It's just this

sea of prairie dresses that it's impossible to get through. We woke up in the morning

and I was like, hey, we're going to conference. I have to get so get ready. That's funny.

Yeah, and I just watched it on a TV at my dad's house and at my brother's house.

So I bet it was actually comfortable to be honest. Yeah, it was great. I mean, very,

very comfy and cozy. So yeah, anyway, we watched the conference the ways a lot of people do.

But we decided to have this conversation because you called me on Saturday between sessions

and I was not in a good place. I mean, I was literally in Washington in a good place,

but like mentally not in a good place. And we had just like a really open and vulnerable

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