This is Kyle Worley, and I'm joining with my co-host, Jen Wilkin, and J.T. English.

And today we are also joined by Dr. Patrick Shriner, who I think as of today joins the very prestigious three-timer club for knowing faith guests.

That is a very, that's rarefied air.

It's an exclusive club.

With many benefits.

With many benefits.

Yeah, you get like a, like, what are those?

Well, we send you not a green jacket.

Have you ever heard of the Sizzler?

Yeah, you get unlimited, unlimited unlimited dining at the sizzler.

Patrick never wants me to do these bios, where I mention all of his credentials, so I'm

to keep it real brief. He's a professor at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

He has written somewhere between five and a hundred books. They are all really good.

So go search his name and buy whichever one interests you.

They're all fantastic books. Patrick, thanks for joining us on the show today. Good to be with you guys.

It's so easy to talk to you guys. Although I will say last time, I'll just make this comment,

I think last time we did it, it was live. And I felt like I was a part of an inside joke,

but that I wasn't

really a part of it.

So, everyone saw y'all will look at each other. You're very easy to talk to you. You'll look at

each other, and I'm like, they've talked about this, but I don't know that they've talked

about this. That reminds me of that Michael Scott quote where he's like, I love inside jokes. I just hope to be a part of one.

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