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🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Preaching for empathy and compassion, Pope Francis was at times seen as an agent of dramatic change in the Catholic Church. Did he succeed? Is that even an answerable question before the world knows his successor? Guest: David Gibson, director of the Center on Religion and Culture at Fordham University Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:06.6	Hey, David, how are you doing right now? Good question. I've got a call at 4 a.m. this morning, so it's kind of been nonstop since then.
1:17.1	David Gibson is the guy I call when there's news at the Vatican. So when I woke up and learned that Pope Francis had died, he was the first person who came to mind.
1:30.2	David spent years working at Vatican Radio. Now he directs Fordham University's
1:35.7	Center on Religion and Culture. I know it's a busy day for you, but is it also an emotional
1:42.1	day for you? It is, I think. You know, I try not to, I try to look at it very dispassionately, like,
1:47.5	you know, I'm an analyst and the whole thing. But I have to say, you know...
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