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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

What next for the NHS?

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The government has published its plans for reform of the NHS, with the first health service white paper in a decade setting out a series of major reforms. So what is the government trying to achieve and what would it mean for the NHS? Is this really the moment, with the NHS still reeling from the demands of the coronavirus crisis, to introduce major reform? What has the pandemic revealed about how the NHS is run? And does this white paper finally provide an answer to the question of how to reform social care?   For answers to these questions, and more, don’t miss the special edition of Inside Briefing. The IfG’s Nick Davies is joined by IfG senior fellows Nick Timmins and John McTernan, and guest Sally Warren of the King’s Fund.   Audio production by Candice McKenzie   #IfGpublicservices See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing Extra, the podcast from the Institute for Government.

0:15.5

I'm Nick Davies, program director at the IFG, stepping briefly into the presenter's chair

0:20.1

to bring you this bonus

0:21.1

episode to discuss the future of the NHS. Because for the first time in over a decade, we've got a new

0:25.9

white paper on health service reform. 2010 model was titled Equity and Excellence, Liberating the NHS.

0:31.7

The latest white paper, which was set out by the health secretary Matt Hancock in the Commons

0:35.4

on Thursday, is a bit more of a mouthful.

0:37.9

It's called integration and innovation working together to improve health and social care for all.

0:43.4

So what will that mean in practice? What opportunities, risks to the reforms, present?

0:48.4

And is the middle of a pandemic the best time to be reorganising the NHS?

0:52.3

To answer those questions and a few more besides,

0:54.9

I'm joined by a great panel. Nicholas Timmons, IFG Senior Fellow, Kings Fund Senior Fellow,

1:00.5

and Public Policy Editor of the FT from 1996 to 2011. Hello Nick. Also dialing into

1:06.3

our virtual studio is Sally Warren, now Director of Policy at the King's Fund, but previously at the

1:11.6

Department for Health, Public Health, England, the Cabinet Office and the Care Quality

1:15.4

Commission, so someone who knows health policy inside out. And I'm delighted to be joined by

1:20.4

John McTurne, IFG, Senior Fellow and former Advisor to Tony Blair. Nicholas, I'm going to come

1:25.7

to you first. So, a leaked draft appeared last week,

1:29.5

and you wrote a superb piece for the IFG in response. In summary, you're not impressed by the

1:34.6

ministerial paragraph? Well, it strikes me the thing that ministers have to explain is why they

1:41.6

need new powers of intervention and direction.

1:50.4

You know, what is it that they have not been able to get the NHS to do that would justify such powers? And the white paper contains absolutely nothing that suggests that. And if you talk

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