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What Next: TBD | The Baby Monitor Trap

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🗓️ 20 April 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

If setting up a baby monitor in the room with your sleeping kids doesn’t allow you to pop out and enjoy the cruise ship, what are they actually good for? Guest: Stephanie Murray, writer for The Atlantic, the newsletter Family Stuff, who wrote “You’re on Vacation. You Leave Your Kid in Your Hotel Room With a Baby Monitor. What Could Go Wrong?” for Slate. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I wonder if you can tell me the story of Abby and Matt Howard.

0:09.4

Who are they, and what did they do?

0:12.0

They are a parenting influencer couple, I guess.

0:16.4

They were high school of sweethearts.

0:19.1

And sort of young parents, I would say, that sort of share their

0:22.7

life as young parents online. I was unaware of who they were until last year when they got

0:31.5

in some trouble. Stephanie Murray is a writer for The Atlantic, and she runs the newsletter,

0:37.4

family stuff. She recently wrote about the Howards in a piece for the Atlantic, and she runs the newsletter, Family Stuff.

0:38.6

She recently wrote about the Howards in a piece for Slate, specifically, an incident that

0:43.3

occurred when the family had gone on a cruise late last year.

0:47.4

They had been putting the kids in the cruise daycare while the couple went to dinner.

0:52.2

That just didn't not go well. The kids didn't like it.

0:55.8

And then they decided, okay, instead we're going to have the kids eat early. We'll put them to

1:01.1

bed. And then, you know, we've got this FaceTime sort of like monitor using your phone

1:07.6

as a makeshift baby monitor.

1:13.7

The internet did not approve.

1:22.2

So that pretty quickly was met with a lot of backlash.

1:24.4

People really did not like that idea.

1:28.2

They thought it was very unsafe and were kind of shocked that the couple would do that.

1:33.4

Obviously, people on the internet always have an opinion, especially when it comes to parenting.

1:39.3

But the backlash the Howard's faced seemed to be more hypothetical than normal.

1:46.5

People were concerned about abduction. Like if you leave a child alone, you know, why would

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