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What Next TBD | The DOGE Resistance

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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🗓️ 28 February 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Federal workers in the U.S. Digital Service resigned in protest over what they viewed as indiscriminate, irresponsible firings coming from the DOGE office. While lawsuits are entering the courts and protests are taking to the streets, will any of this make a difference to the chainsaw-minded leaders of DOGE?  Guest: Ryan Mac, tech reporter at the New York Times and co-author of “Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter.” Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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On Tuesday, 21 federal workers from the U.S. Digital Service resigned in protest.

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The USDS, which was created in the Obama administration,

1:14.9

got rolled into the so-called Department of Government Efficiency, Doge, earlier this year.

1:21.2

There's been a bunch of legacy employees at that unit that are unhappy with what's going on.

1:27.2

Ryan Mack is a tech reporter for the New York Times.

1:30.7

They don't agree with the orders they're being given from folks like Elon Musk and his

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associates.

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And they resigned very publicly.

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They signed a letter that number 21 represents about a third of the remaining employees in the unit.

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